What you have will work. You don't need to put a bead down. I just drag it where it needs to go. Put it on both surfaces. When it is tacky or kinda dry, put a little more on one side and then it will bond almost instantly. Sometimes making small circles or slightly back and forth helps. A bead is too much.

 

^^^Agree with that except I've never added more (after each surface becomes tacky). A thin coat on each surface is all that's needed and will bond immediately. Do not attempt to reposition.

 

Thanks for the replies so far...….

Let me try to separate this into two questions......the adhesive itself......and then how to apply it.

1) Is the way this 08581 coming out of the tube normal? You apply it to the weatherstrip and when you pull the tube away from the weatherstrip, instead of the adhesive sticking to the weatherstrip, it stays stuck the nozzle of the tube and pulls off of the weatherstrip. This is because the surface of the adhesive is drying the moment it hits the air.....If this is normal and you just have to learn to work with it, that's fine. I just want to make sure I didn't get a bad tube or that the 08581 is wrong and I should have the 08008.

2) As far as the application, the surface of the weatherstrip that contacts the door is 1/2 inch wide with a 1/8 wide groove in the center. (see picture). Not having done this before, my first guess would be that the 1/8 groove is for putting a bead of adhesive in. I would think if you put the adhesive on either side of the groove (not much room there), the adhesive is going to squeeze out past the edge of the weatherstrip and be visible and I don't want that.

Just looking for a little more insight on this.

Thanks...……….Dave

 

Not sure I've ever used the 08581. I know the 08008 I use doesn't dry right out of the tube, buy will start to skin over after a minute or two. Is there some sort of film on the strip like silicone that's preventing the adhesive from sticking?

If you look at the Body By Fisher manuals, the only time they mention using weatherstrip adhesive, is if the are no nylon push clips, or at the top/beltline, front and rear, on sedans. They do mention in general it can be used if more retention is needed on any weatherstrip. But maybe the aftermarket weatherstrips are not as high quality as the originals, so the manufacturers also want you to glue it in place? Personally I'd not glue them unless necessary.

 

I went to O'Reilly's and bought a tube of the 08008. It seems identical to the 08581. I think the only difference might be that the 08581 is a 2 oz. tube and the 08008 is a 5 oz. tube.

I changed the way I was pulling up the tube after applying the adhesive to the weatherstrip. Before, I was just pulling it straight up. Now I am pressing the tube nozzle hard against the weatherstrip to make a clean break before pulling up the tube. That made a big difference. Doing it that way, most of the adhesive stayed on the weatherstrip with only a little sticking to and coming up with the tube.

I got the driver's door done today and will do the passenger tomorrow.

If you look at the Body By Fisher manuals, the only time they mention using weatherstrip adhesive, is if the are no nylon push clips, or at the top/beltline, front and rear, on sedans. They do mention in general it can be used if more retention is needed on any weatherstrip. But maybe the aftermarket weatherstrips are not as high quality as the originals, so the manufacturers also want you to glue it in place? Personally I'd not glue them unless necessary.

After reading this, I was curious if my original weatherstrips were glued to the doors. Looking at my old deteriorated weaterstrips and looking at pictures of my doors after the weatherstrips were removed but before they were repainted, there's no evidence of any adhesive......That made me wonder if I should use any adhesive at all. But then I thought if Metro "highly recommended" using it with their product, I might better do it....so I did.

Thanks for all of the help...……..Dave

 

The photo below shows an example tacky 3m 08008 glue. I tried to peel it off my finger two minutes after I took this picture. It looks like it is going to have to wear off. Maybe you bought a very old tube?

The side of the tube says it is also for gaskets and seals. I know they sell 08008 at O'Rielly auto parts.

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I would go buy the recommended glue. I don't think 3M makes two different products to do the same thing. What you have might work but why take a chance?

 

Although you might have just purchased the tube, you have an old tube of glue. I have had the same problem. Try and purchase a tube at a store that sells the glue often. The glue out of a new tube will spread like jelly.



Good Luck with your project
Mike

 

This. I had the same issue a few years ago. Got another tube and it worked great.

 

I didn't use adhesive in the pinned areas (in your photo), but on the ends where it meets the glass, it needs to be applied liberally. Metro, unless they've changed, doesn't have internal metal reinforcements as originals did. I had a problem with the ends sticking to the glass and pulling out of place as window was rolled down.

 

you may also want to wipe the w/strips off with a solvent to make sure they are free of any release agent or other contaminants.

 

:thumbsup:

...at least wipe them down with rubbing alcohol. And have some alcohol, too!

 

All the weatherstrip adhesive I've always bought from the local auto store, black or yellow always strung like honey. When i installed weatherstripping that had the plastic mounting tabs, I didn't use adhesive because the fit was tight and never leaked.

 

I did heed the advice and started cleaning the contact surface of the weather strip with solvent. How the adhesive adhered after that was pretty much the same. What I learned was that I had to use a different technique to apply it. One I got that down, it worked fine.

Thanks for all of the comments and suggestions,

Dave