[Chris396]

Us car guys are slightly nutty. Myself included. But some of us are really nutty like those people on that show Hoarders. They have an uncontrollable urge to collect stuff even if they can't take care or maintain it. I knew a guy who had a junkyard that he shut down in the late 70's early 80's that full of muscle. He wouldn't sell any of it and he was broke. He also had an old gas station that didn't sell gas anymore that had weeds growing up through the concrete. Inside the garagae was a '68 Shelby GT 500KR convertible covered with an inch of dust. He also had a real small block Cobra in a storage shed that was stolen. The last I heard is that he's dead now and all the cars in the junkyard had to be moved by the EPA. I don't know what happened to all of his stuff.

 

[John Doyle]

The psychological reasons behind this behavior have already been explained to you many times in your life...

No, it's not Freud, Watson or even Pavlov.

Think!

It's Daffy Duck saying: "It's MINE, MINE, MINE, ALL MINE!!!"

Greed, pure and simple in it's truest form

-JD

 

[prostreet69camaro]

I know where a 68 Z28 with( born with ) 302, 4sp, 12 bolt, flat hood. It belongs to my stepbrother and he bought it in 1974. He drove it till about 1980 then it has sat since. It has sat in his shop and has about 75k miles if I remember correctly. I have been trying to buy it for 20 years and when I go visit I ask him if he will sell it. The answer NO but if I do I will sell it to you.

Well last year times got tuff and he sold his land and shop and now the car sits in the driveway with a tarp over it. He had to buy a enclosed trailer for alot of the shop stuff. I told him to buy another trailer and put the car in the trailer. If you search on here you will find my post about the car.

I go back this year and he gets 1500.00 a week for 5 years and then a lump sum for the remainder what is owned to him for his shop and land. So now he doesnt need any money. Damn I almost could have bought it.

 

[DjD]

I don't disagree that the original poster and MOST of the replies are not intended for a car like mine that is in the garage. However, in the rush of finding an unknown car (to them) or spotting a cool musclecar in a neighborhood they've never been before, I've found I get lumped in with the same mentality of barn/field car owners by guys who feel I should sell it to them. So remember, when you see a car like that (field/barn or even in a garage) it does belong to the owner and take it slow. If someone wants to sell you will get the 'buy' signals and then go for it if you want to try and buy it.

Thank you, that was much better said and conveys the message I was going for perfectly...

 

[JAYARTER]

I found a 66 SS Chevyll and 58 Chevy Sedan Delivery (just sold)
2 years ago sitting beside a house and a black tag Calif chevelle wagon (65) sitting in back yard last year...just keep looking and you'll find them and for sale also...I'm keeping th 66 SS to fix up all orginal 230/3 on the tree Within in a mile of my house are 66 Chevelle, road runner, 68 Camaro. mopar, amx not for sale Good Luck Happy New Year j

 

[bwcamaro68]

Well here in a place we call Mariposa, CA I met an old Gentleman by the name of "old man Pearson". Gary you might or any of the California guys might know of him as well.
Pearson's Auto Dismantling
2343 State Highway 49 South, Mariposa, CA 95338-9741

Some of the cars he had on site

This man had atleast 13 acre's that i know of and "tons" of classic cars. I was able to buy parts for my First 67 there back in the day when he was alive. He had a sign saying
"I dont have hours
I work when i want to
maybe Fri Sat.
You can call i might
answer the phone."

it took me 2 years to get him to let me go out to the yard and look around. This man had barns and building full of classics.

Passed away not to long ago and the daughter brought into the site a car crusher and scrapped 12 of the acre's and i can only assume the fate of the classics in the buildings.

He was a great ol' man he was, he gave me a big boost to go after finishing my 67 RS. i can understand the guys who dont want to sell. but its the ones who hold onto it to see it rust away.

 

[jjjtjl]

I have a 1969 Z28 sitting in the garage for the last 8 years I know the feeling of one day I will finish the project.oh well maybe in another 8 years

 

[RichSchmidt]

Not all cars that sit outside even uncovered in the rain are destined to the scrap pile.Even my "finished" Firebird is often out in the elements.Aside from having a big driveway,I had part of my yard finished by grading down 6 iches an covering it with river rocks.If you keep some kind of paint over the bare/rusty metal,keep the inteior dry,an keep the undercarrage off the ground a car can be plenty safe outside.Another killer is trees.Pine needles and leaves trapped under the window molding,or into the cowl can breed rust.Letting a car stay covered in soot or tree pollen is a great way to end up with a car that stays perpetually damp.

Cars under trees,up to the rockers in mud are on the fast track to the crusher,but you can usually tell a project in the making.Usually somebody with a nice car in the garage and a POS alongside the garage has reaistic plans for the POS.

 

[rafbody]

I know where there is a 67 L78 car that was wrecked in 1974 and has been sitting ever since. It was out in the elements for years but is now in the garage but in need of a total restoration. This is an original owner car and I have talked to him on the phone several times and even got to look at the car once. He is a good guy and really would like to restore the car I believe. He told me it would be his sons car. I haven't talked to him in a couple of years now so maybe I need to make another call.

 

[RSSSfanatic]

I know where there is a 67 L78 car that was wrecked in 1974 and has been sitting ever since. It was out in the elements for years but is now in the garage but in need of a total restoration. This is an original owner car and I have talked to him on the phone several times and even got to look at the car once. He is a good guy and really would like to restore the car I believe. He told me it would be his sons car. I haven't talked to him in a couple of years now so maybe I need to make another call.

Russ, since you're down there in Honduras, give me directions to his place, and I will be happy to check it our for you.

 

[71maligreen]

been sitting in the guys yard for at least 18 yrs i have asked about it 20-30 times over past 12-15 yrs and answer is the same not for sale ever!!!

 

[rafbody]

Russ, since you're down there in Honduras, give me directions to his place, and I will be happy to check it our for you.

Thanks for the offer Tom but I think I will hold off. I know you are looking out for me. What are friends for? By the way, I will still haul the piece of junk 69 off for you. LOL

 

[Brentmc]

I have a 67 C4 Vert and 69 RS in my driveway and a 68 RS/SS in my garage. The 67 Vert is a fun driver, 69 RS is 90% restored and the 68 RS/SS is 100% done. Delivery guys/driveway sealer/salesmen put me through the same routine:

They ask "those old cars for sale?" (well, number one, we both know that they are not just "old cars"...so right off the bat you've insulted my intelligence and I'm not interested in dealing with you).

Number 2, now that they have labled them "old cars", they expect me to offer to trade them for an Xbox 360 and a pack of gum. I have THREE Camaros in my driveway...I PROBABLY know something about them and their value.

I enjoy talking cars with most anyone but when *buyers* treat me like a moron or invade my space in hopes of walking away with a $25K car for $746.59, they are wasting my time and making themselves look bad.

I would think that many of these guys who don't want to talk to folks about their "old car" in the field/garage/barn have been through the same thing. Insulting offers, aggressive *buyers* and folks trespassing on their property to check out vins and trim tags.

My approach if I truly want to talk Camaros with someone who has one on their property is to go there driving my Camaro. This shows that I am not just a dreamer and am actually a Camaro guy. It also shows that I know how to restore the car and care for it. This is the best conversation starter I have found and hard for a fellow Camaro fan to resist. When I had no Camaros I would compliment him on his Camaro and go from there.

At a minimum you talk cars for awhile. At best, they see someone who cares for Camaros and may be willing to sell Aunt Tilda's 69 Camaro to someone who will treat it right.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Chuck]

I have a 67 C4 Vert and 69 RS in my driveway and a 68 RS/SS in my garage. The 67 Vert is a fun driver, 69 RS is 90% restored and the 68 RS/SS is 100% done. Delivery guys/driveway sealer/salesmen put me through the same routine:

They ask "those old cars for sale?" (well, number one, we both know that they are not just "old cars"...so right off the bat you've insulted my intelligence and I'm not interested in dealing with you).

Number 2, now that they have labled them "old cars", they expect me to offer to trade them for an Xbox 360 and a pack of gum. I have THREE Camaros in my driveway...I PROBABLY know something about them and their value.

I enjoy talking cars with most anyone but when *buyers* treat me like a moron or invade my space in hopes of walking away with a $25K car for $746.59, they are wasting my time and making themselves look bad.

I would think that many of these guys who don't want to talk to folks about their "old car" in the field/garage/barn have been through the same thing. Insulting offers, aggressive *buyers* and folks trespassing on their property to check out vins and trim tags.

My approach if I truly want to talk Camaros with someone who has one on their property is to go there driving my Camaro. This shows that I am not just a dreamer and am actually a Camaro guy. It also shows that I know how to restore the car and care for it. This is the best conversation starter I have found and hard for a fellow Camaro fan to resist. When I had no Camaros I would compliment him on his Camaro and go from there.

At a minimum you talk cars for awhile. At best, they see someone who cares for Camaros and may be willing to sell Aunt Tilda's 69 Camaro to someone who will treat it right.

Just my 2 cents.

Just tell them: Sure, they're for sale, you can have all three of them for $150,000!

 

[DjD]

I have a 67 C4 Vert and 69 RS in my driveway and a 68 RS/SS in my garage. The 67 Vert is a fun driver, 69 RS is 90% restored and the 68 RS/SS is 100% done. Delivery guys/driveway sealer/salesmen put me through the same routine:

They ask "those old cars for sale?" (well, number one, we both know that they are not just "old cars"...so right off the bat you've insulted my intelligence and I'm not interested in dealing with you).

Number 2, now that they have labled them "old cars", they expect me to offer to trade them for an Xbox 360 and a pack of gum. I have THREE Camaros in my driveway...I PROBABLY know something about them and their value.

I enjoy talking cars with most anyone but when *buyers* treat me like a moron or invade my space in hopes of walking away with a $25K car for $746.59, they are wasting my time and making themselves look bad.

I would think that many of these guys who don't want to talk to folks about their "old car" in the field/garage/barn have been through the same thing. Insulting offers, aggressive *buyers* and folks trespassing on their property to check out vins and trim tags.

My approach if I truly want to talk Camaros with someone who has one on their property is to go there driving my Camaro. This shows that I am not just a dreamer and am actually a Camaro guy. It also shows that I know how to restore the car and care for it. This is the best conversation starter I have found and hard for a fellow Camaro fan to resist. When I had no Camaros I would compliment him on his Camaro and go from there.

At a minimum you talk cars for awhile. At best, they see someone who cares for Camaros and may be willing to sell Aunt Tilda's 69 Camaro to someone who will treat it right.

Just my 2 cents.

First I see nothing wrong with calling them "old cars", most of the guys on this site and the real car guys I know are into "old cars". It's a perspective or perception, when someone says old cars you can translate that to turd or pos if you want or you can translate that to Camaro, Chevelle, GTO, 442, Impala, Mustang, Model T, Model A etc...

Showing up in a Camaro is a good way to get the conversation about old cars rolling but if you are serious about buying and show up in an old Camaro the owner (seller) is going to get dollar signs in his eyes because first he knows you're into Camaros and if you have one and are looking at another you must be jones'n for a fix. As well he knows in his mind if you're driving an old Camaro you are loaded and have lots of cash because who better than another old Camaro owner knows how valuable an old Camaro is...

It takes all kinds to make the world go round and there are jerks out there but a lot of folks are just looking for a conversation. Don't limit yourself to only talking to them if they pull up in an old classic Camaro...

 

[Brentmc]

Dennis,

Valid points and points taken.

My point was that many of these guys who react so negatively to folks asking about the car do so often because of bad experiences with rude wanna-be buyers. I've grown weary of these folks and imagine many of these other guys have too.

My experience with people stopping at my house to ask to buy my cars is largely based on guys thinking I have a couple of "old cars" that I'm just waiting for someone to haul away. "Old cars" in the context they are generally using are not "old classics"--they are more "that old piece of trash taking up space on your land" and I think that is what guys with these cars get tired of hearing.

As a "how much ya want for that old car" conversation progresses, it is quickly obvious whether the guy is a lover of classic cars or otherwise. I'll talk to the car guy (even if he isn't driving a Camaro). The others can move on and not waste my time.

My approach to buying (cars, houses, etc) is not to insult the seller. If there are defects, they can honestly and respectfully be pointed out.
As a buyer, the whole "a Yenko the same color as my plain 67 coupe sold for $600K at BJ"-problem is a whole different subject and I am not infected with that virus and walk away from sellers/owners who are.

Just trying to provide some insight into at least one person's perspective on wanna-be buyers.

 

[classicfan1]

Well here in a place we call Mariposa, CA I met an old Gentleman by the name of "old man Pearson". Gary you might or any of the California guys might know of him as well.
Pearson's Auto Dismantling
2343 State Highway 49 South, Mariposa, CA 95338-9741

Some of the cars he had on site

This man had atleast 13 acre's that i know of and "tons" of classic cars. I was able to buy parts for my First 67 there back in the day when he was alive. He had a sign saying
"I dont have hours
I work when i want to
maybe Fri Sat.
You can call i might
answer the phone."

it took me 2 years to get him to let me go out to the yard and look around. This man had barns and building full of classics.

Passed away not to long ago and the daughter brought into the site a car crusher and scrapped 12 of the acre's and i can only assume the fate of the classics in the buildings.

He was a great ol' man he was, he gave me a big boost to go after finishing my 67 RS. i can understand the guys who dont want to sell. but its the ones who hold onto it to see it rust away.

Yup, the state government and land developers forced the crusher onto the yard. You can look on YouTube and find videos of the "executions". Ah, ignorance...:sad: