I am looking at a 69 Z28, Built in Mar 69, no pictures yet, but this what I have been told. The owner has had it for 20 years, original drivetrain car, missing the cowl induction hood, but has the solenoid for the cowl induction, JL8 option and deluxe cross weave interior?. The car's current state is that it is a shell (sand blasted and did not primer so it has surface rust), missing correct intake, doesn't know about the distributor. The motor was rebuilt bored over (used Z crank), has the original wheels and a non original spare, but a Z spare, back seat has been redone. No documentation or build sheet. I know it is hard w/o pics, but just a guess.
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I am looking at a 69 Z28, Built in Mar 69, no pictures yet, but this what I have been told. The owner has had it for 20 years, original drivetrain car, missing the cowl induction hood, but has the solenoid for the cowl induction, JL8 option and deluxe cross weave interior?. The car's current state is that it is a shell (sand blasted and did not primer so it has surface rust), missing correct intake, doesn't know about the distributor. The motor was rebuilt bored over (used Z crank), has the original wheels and a non original spare, but a Z spare, back seat has been redone. No documentation or build sheet. I know it is hard w/o pics, but just a guess.
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We can't even get you in the ballpark with the description provided. First you said (or the seller said) it's a Z28. If it's a Norwood built X code car with the original trim tag then you have something of value. If it's a Van Nuys car with no broadcast sheet you have just another Camaro unless the engine is without doubt the original one. Where's the proof of the JL8 option? If it's there is it a service rear or a real one? What is the condition of the shell? How many other parts (such as pulleys, carb and exhaust manifolds) are missing? The value of this car given the description could easily range from 5K (non-documented Van Nuys z with many missing components) to 50K for a real Norwood Z with a real JL8 rear properly dated for the car and the original engine/trans.
pretty vague description ..too hard to guess to many questions needed to be ask!! how long has the car been sitting around,...........does the engine run..........i cant even begin to guess on this one but i will anyways $7500.00 tops by what your saying!!
Sorry about the vague description, I am a couple of states away from the car, the cowl tag is one of the photos that I am requesting. According to the seller, it is a Norwood X coded car. He doesn't have any proof of the JL8, other than the calipers, rotors, etc. The shell is in good condition (his words) all rust (not surface) has been repaired with NOS material. The engine has been in storage, but he said that he would go through it. He said the motor, transmission and rear end matches the car and he thought there were approximately 3-4K of missing parts. I should have waited for pics before I started this....
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Post a picture of the cowl tag when you get it. That will be big help. You can figure it is at least in the low teens if the cowl tag has not been tampered with. Value would go up from there depending on the rest of the answers. Also you need to request a pic of the axle code and the axle tubes where the backing plates attach. Of course a pic of the engine numbers (if they are still on the pad) and have him check for the vin code on the block by the oil filter.
If it really is a JL8 car with the original engine, trans, and rear end I would guess in that condition about 20K max. The Frost green paint, green interior, and green vinyl top detract, at least in my opinion, from what would maybe be 25K tops with better colors. Now if the block, trans, or rear end aren't original to the car then the calue drops fast from there. Just my opinion. The cowl tag appears to be original and the rearend also looks like an original. I would also like to see casting numbers and stamps on all three components before I would drop that kind of change. Thats what I would pay anyway.
There also would not be a metering valve by the master cylinder. You may want to get a pic of the engine compartment to see if one is there.
I agree that the trim tag looks original and that the colors are not great.
Also, with no POP or Chassis Broadcast Sheet, you can't be sure if the JL8 was added at some point, however, this could be one of the estimated 206.
Value on this one is tough.
Maybe $25,000 if you can learn to like the Frost Green.
I agree that the trim tag looks original and that the colors are not great.
Also, with no POP or Chassis Broadcast Sheet, you can't be sure if the JL8 was added at some point, however, this could be one of the estimated 206.
Value on this one is tough.
Maybe $25,000 if you can learn to like the Frost Green.
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The car is in the correct build range for JL8 production. Next time you look at the car check the axle codes on the rear end. The build date of the axle should be before the build date of the car. Also check the front brakes as the JL8 option came with completely different front brake calipers. They were 4 piston Corvette style rather than the single piston normally found on the 69 Camaro.
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I have a feeling it is original to the car ...... will be interested with what you come up with .If this is a numbers JL8 car with some documentation you have a sweet Z there. Can't tell from the rear photo if it is an RS too ,that would be nice.
I personally think the color combo on the car is bitchen . Would love to hear more about it.
If it is a numbers car I think you are in good shape at 25k or less. I would have no problem paying more if everything lines up ...
If the motor has been rebuilt you need to pay attention to the deck to make sure the flint stamp has not been removed.
PS-Does look like some ugly rust on the firewall on that trim tag photo
I personally think the color combo on the car is bitchen . Would love to hear more about it.
If it is a numbers car I think you are in good shape at 25k or less. I would have no problem paying more if everything lines up ...
If the motor has been rebuilt you need to pay attention to the deck to make sure the flint stamp has not been removed.
PS-Does look like some ugly rust on the firewall on that trim tag photo
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Is it possible to get a few more photos of that tag?
Here are a couple of more pics...
He said that he doesnt have any docs for the JL8 option, is there any way to determine if it is? Jerry M certification...
It is an RS
I am having trouble loading more pics... says that I have already met the total requirement...
He said that he doesnt have any docs for the JL8 option, is there any way to determine if it is? Jerry M certification...
It is an RS
I am having trouble loading more pics... says that I have already met the total requirement...
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When I found my JL8 car I knew it was real by the untouched condition and the presence of all the correct JL8 components. Before I took it apart I had Jerry M come and look at it. I had the car on the lift when he got here and as soon as he walked under it he also knew the car had never been apart. I now have a certificate of authenticity and the car is in the middle of restoration.
If all of the components specific to the JL8 option are with that car you should buy the car and definately pay Jerry to come and look at it. First make sure the date codes on the axle line up with the build date of the car.
Scott, unless the guy is asking an insane price I would highly recommend you buy that car before it gets away. It will be discovered by someone else now that people around here knows it exists.
If all of the components specific to the JL8 option are with that car you should buy the car and definately pay Jerry to come and look at it. First make sure the date codes on the axle line up with the build date of the car.
Scott, unless the guy is asking an insane price I would highly recommend you buy that car before it gets away. It will be discovered by someone else now that people around here knows it exists.
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Posting these for Scott... I think the JL8 is complete and though this does not guarantee that it is original to the car.. it does have some patina
The VIN is on the block but all I can make out is the "N"
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The VIN is on the block but all I can make out is the "N"
Certainly looks like a real JL8 car. If the VIN on the engine matches then the car looks to be a good pick up. The color may not be the most interesting but being rare will help make up for that. That master cylinder is not original but the rest of the brake parts look original. Get the casting numbers off all the calipers inner and outer and post up to verify they are original and not some other 4 piston replacements.
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