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Re: 1968 dart gts 383

A correction of my rear axle hogshead casting number for the big bearing pinion, it's '389 the last numbers, not those I wrote earlier. CRS happened this AM, then this PM, I remembered.

Dana '60's only came in Hemi's & 440X6's.
 
Re: 1968 dart gts 383

Maybe that A body is a Mr. Norms Grand Spaulding
Slight chance, 383 gts was offerd thru any dodge dealer, but Grand Spaulding sold them also on their lot.

Although Mr Norm for the 1968 year model offerd a in house conversion , they would sell a dart GTS with a 440. Following year 1969 Dodge offered the Dart GTS and Barracuda 440 (both are a-body), biggest drawback was very restrictive driver side manifold and small radiator openings and they were all automatics. they are very rare ( under 1000 cars combined).

A set of a-body 440 manifolds, if found for sale , can fetch up to $5000.00

Cars were light and nose heavy, because of restrictive manifolds, they made less HP ( 330hp) then larger b-body cars equipped with same engine( 375 hp), thus they never made a fast car as one would expect.
 
Re: 1968 dart gts 383

Don't forget about the 340ci that came in a lot of these cars. I have one... 340 that is, not the car. Great little engine. :yes:
 
Re: 1968 dart gts 383

A correction of my rear axle hogshead casting number for the big bearing pinion, it's '389 the last numbers, not those I wrote earlier. CRS happened this AM, then this PM, I remembered.

Dana '60's only came in Hemi's & 440X6's.
very close, let me clarify, the ''pumpkin'' you refer to is the 489 not 389, ;)

Dana 60 were standard issue on any 426, 440+4 and 440+6 4SPEED.

426, 440+4 and 440+6 automatic cars had the 8 3/4, unless equipped with track pack or super track pack ( dana 60, larger radiator,larger clutch fan).

:beers:
 
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very close, let me clarify, the ''pumpkin'' you refer to is the 489 not 389,
I was getting closer, CRS still lingering,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 
Re: 1968 dart gts 383

My friend collects Mopars mainly, as well as all the other makes. If it's legit and solid I'd be all over it. I'm looking into a survivor one owner solid '72 Superbee now. Not a 68 Dart but still intrigues me. Nice thing about Mopars, the VIN tells all, not like our Camaros.
Super bee was not available in 1972, last year for the super bee was 1971, which was based on the charger model, prior years 1968,1969 and 1970 super bee is based off the coronet.

Make sure if you are considering the super bee that its real, first 2 digits of vin should be WM,
 
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yee- haw!!! erik,..thankls for the info..i figured about 15k because that is what im asking for my car!...how can i tell what rear end is in it?

It will be a 8 3/4 unless replaced by prior owner(s), as for the gear ratio, they were mostly 3.23's, but could have been swapped out hundreds of times by now.

8 3/4 are very good diffs, especially that they do not have floating axles like GM'S, very similar to Ford 9 inch ( maybe not as strong)

gear changes are easy, considering you only have to remove and install pumpkin.
 
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Super bee was not available in 1972, last year for the super bee was 1971, which was based on the charger model, prior years 1968,1969 and 1970 super bee is based off the coronet.

Make sure if you are considering the super bee that its real, first 2 digits of vin should be WM,
Thanks, my mistake. First time pursuing an interest in them. It' a 71. I painted a '69 6 years ago. Fortunately I can rely on my friend for data. His retirement lies in them.
 
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dana 60 was only available on 4 speed b and e body equipped with 426 hemi or 440 , automatics equipped with track pack ( 3.55) or super track pack (4.10) would also have a dana all others came with a 8 3/4,

All 383 equipped cars( a,b,c,e) came with a 8 3/4( auto or 4 speed).
Thanx for the clarification. I know I've only seen Dana's with a 4 speed and 426 or 440.

The 3 Mopars I've owned were all 383/727 cars with 8-3/4 rear ends.
 
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Re: 1968 dart gts 383

Ok,
i looked at the car and the rear is an 8.75 with a 4:10 posi
fifth dig on the vin is an h
383 with a solid cam that beats the ground
msd ignition
tranny is 727 reverse man body
paint it a 7-8 she looks good and slick with few flaws
interior is very nice
glass is great
needs a rear bumper and taillights
horn is not working
wipers dont work
drove the car and it runs and drives great
tires and rims are new
i told him 5k and his car??(he looked upset but he said he would think about it!!) he is tired of the hot rods and wants a driver..?? I think he will hook!!
 
Re: 1968 dart gts 383

Ok,
i looked at the car and the rear is an 8.75 with a 4:10 posi
fifth dig on the vin is an h
383 with a solid cam that beats the ground
msd ignition
tranny is 727 reverse man body
paint it a 7-8 she looks good and slick with few flaws
interior is very nice
glass is great
needs a rear bumper and taillights
horn is not working
wipers dont work
drove the car and it runs and drives great
tires and rims are new
i told him 5k and his car??(he looked upset but he said he would think about it!!) he is tired of the hot rods and wants a driver..?? I think he will hook!!
Sounds like a good deal, tail lights can be bought new or used, Look up PG classic , they have a fair amount of new parts for Darts.

Unless you want to get the Mopar owners panties in a bunch, correct therm is Sure grip 8 3/4, not a posi ;) For some reason it upsets them when a GM name is given to Mopar parts :beers:

Best website for Mopars would be www.moparts.com, lots of knowledgeable members who are always ready to answer.
 
Discussion starter · #32 ·
Re: 1968 dart gts 383

Erik, thats too funny.. Thanks for all the info and links and the correct terminology...
 
Re: 1968 dart gts 383

Bill-
After a 7 year resto on a 68 barracuda,i have found that resto pieces are very pricey and hard to come by.Especially bright trim and interior parts.
I believe you will come to appreciate the availabilty of camaro parts more and more as you dive into the resto of an "A" body mopar.
But on the other hand-You dont see many of them at the local shows,and they always draw a crowd.:beers:
 
Discussion starter · #34 ·
Re: 1968 dart gts 383

agreeded
 
Re: 1968 dart gts 383

A 440 4V car with a 4 speed would also have the 60 in it. mopars are easier to restore than they used to be a lot of parts are now made, nothing like a camaro or a mustang but not bad.

From an investment stand Darts are kind of weak, but a big block 68 is about as good as you're going to get.
 
Discussion starter · #36 ·
Re: 1968 dart gts 383

He wants to swap even?
 
Re: 1968 dart gts 383

He wants to swap even?
You might find that the dart is no where as comfortable or fast as your 02 camaro.

Your LS engine as waaaay more potential then a modded 383.

I am thinking the Dart is a nice driver at most, problably will be needing TLc and some $$$ to make it more road worthy, still it will only be a nice running car.

If you want to restore, better to find a cheaper non running car and start from scratch.

Dart 383 GTS are worth more $$$ and get more attention when properly restored rather then modded with aftermarket goodies.

If you plan on re-selling, hard to say without pictures... or more condition info , but i cant see any more then $15 000 and that is when you find your buyer.

My personnal opinion is...Being a musclecar fan.... nothing beats the feel of driving a 40 year old musclecar even if newer cars are 10x better in every way. Tough decision, if it were a comparably equipped b-body ( road runner, super bee) i wouldnt look back.


Unless you are in love with the dart, your first offer of $5000.00 plus his car in exchange seems better.
 
Discussion starter · #38 ·
he wants to swap even!!!!!!!!!
im out!!!!!!!!
i do dig the car though, it is kinda neat..
 
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