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1967 Yenko Camaro on ebay,No Yenko 427 Conversion paperwork!

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#1 ·
Who owns this car and was the NICB verble or on NICB computer generated paper like Rich Pern had shown on here months back that he got.
 
#8 ·
neat that the State at least issued a Camaro formatted VIN for the car since the org VIN tag was missing. Wish a pic of the Cowl tag was shown as well as the YS tag. Somewhere 427 Paperwork will be aquired and then the price will be $$$$

how does it fit that the YS # is higher than that of a higher VIN car. was it sitting around until someone liked that color and then asked for it or ??
 
#9 ·
Hey guys. This is Clint R.'s car. No hanky panky here. It is what it is and he doesn't know. Here is what is known:

1) First car listed on the 1967 Yenko Vin list
2) Probably the first 1967 Camaro Yenko ever bought
3) Was a 327 Powerglide car new. Several cars were small block cars before conversion. Big blocks weren't being produced yet. There are doc's 6 cylinder conversion cars. This car was built the 1st day of production.
4) No conversion docs available. Warren only has it on the Yenko floor plan. Very early car.
5) NICB is in print out form. Delivered 9/01/66 to Yenko. Being on the floor plan, don't even need the NICB.
6) Car was to be acid dipped in 1977, then sold before hand. Trim tag and vin were damaged in the process. Never did get acid dipped. Correct reissued VIN by state of OH., and hidden VINS are there.
7) Was told Vince E. has "something" on it.

Was a race car pre-1977 and did have a 427 in it according to owner at that time. Came up short on the research before 1977. All he knows it was white at the time and raced in Ohio. It is what it is. The first camaro on the VIN list of Yenko. Somebody needs to paint it gold, put some cragars on it IMO. Neat car that someone/somewhere knows about it's history. You would think the first camaro Yenko received was some sort of a "mule" for speed parts, or ? I will never believe they received this Camaro in Sept. of 66 and sold it to a little old lady down the road. Especially since it is likely the first one they received and their involvement in the Supercar movement. Someone is going to be into a 1967 Yenko Camaro pretty cheap.

Dave
 
#12 ·
Ok I was thinking about this but not sure so I'll ask here.The "Term Floor Plan" is used.Can someone explain that? Is all 1967 Camaros that went thru Yenko Chevrolet in 1967? Total number of 1967 Camaros sold thru Don Yenkos Dealership in Cannonsburg PA? Ok now this when was the 1st Documented 1967 Non SS 427/425 HP Automatic built? Did he use a PowerGlide like in this car? When did the Turbo 400 automatics come out in 1967?
 
#13 ·
Tom, according to the list you used to have on your site, 101382 was the earliest and first VIN. It was never claimed to be the first converted car. It may or may not be?? Would you dispute it was the first camaro ever purchased by Yenko Chevrolet? I am also curious as to your thoughts concerning this 1967 Camaro being received by Yenko Chev on Sept.1 1966. That is early and it would be hard to believe this car was put right on the lot to sell. Time will tell.
 
#14 ·
As I have explained before, this VIN is not first on the original 107 list.. To make it easier for folks to check numbers, we did list the VINs in sequential order on our site, but that is not how the folks at Yenko put the list together. Though that is a very low number, it is quite a ways down on the 107 list. Why the list was put together the way it was, who knows? I have a theory or two, but will leave that for the experts.

Though the lowest number (not the first number) on the list, I have no way of knowing if that car was the first Camaro ever purchased by Yenko Chevrolet. Could be, but on the other hand, something could turn up tomorrow to disprove that. IMO, Chevrolet would be the only source that could verify that fact beyond a reasonable doubt.

Was it put on the lot to sell, I would think so, being Yenko was a new car dealership, but once again, who knows?
 
#16 ·
As I have said for many years, the 107 list is not a list of Yenko 427 Camaros.
The 107 list should have been posted as it was found - not posted in the form of a Yenko inventory list. The way it was posted, it was combined with info from real inventory lists so it was made to look like an inventory list.

I don’t believe Don intended the 107 list to be an inventory list of 1967 427 Camaros.
In my opinion, he was using that vin. list for a different purpose.

A Yenko Chevrolet sold car is not the same as one of Don’s hi po cars sold through Yenko SportsCars. The Yenko SportsCars inventory list normally show more info then just the vin. They may include options, price, salesman initials, selling dealer, and other info.

This N101382 Camaro may have just been sold as stock Camaro. It is difficult to say what it is without having documentation such as showing up on a real inventory list, Yenko work order, original pictures etc.

Not sure if Yenko was even selling 427 Camaros in 1966. Yenko and Dana ran a full page ad in late 1966 announcing that Yenko will sell the Dana 427 Camaro and Dana will sell the Yenko Stinger (Corvair). We know that Dana did get a few unconverted Yenko Stingers but do not know if Yenko sold any Dana 427 Camaros.

The floor plan info is normally based on GMAC financing inventory lists.
I do not believe the floor plan will show a Yenko modified car.
 
#17 ·
Joe, as I have said before, instead of boring us with theorys, opinions, what you think Don intended to do, attacking other's information, etc, why not share some real, concrete information with us that you say you have. I know I would love to see it, I would imagine Dave/Clint would like more then just your opinion when commenting on their car and I am sure members here would love to see what you have.
 
#18 ·
I say “theory” or “opinion” because that is the way I was trained to write as an engineer.
If you don’t have fact verification, then it is a “theory” or “opinion”.
That is how people should write on an internet forum.

The 1966 Yenko/Dana ad is a verifiable fact since it was in a national publication and I have posted a copy of it many times and attached it again here. Early invoices for headers and scatter shields dated Jan 1967 ( have posted some). Early Yenko Super Camaro ads in print after Jan 1967. (can’t remember if I posted them).

Based on these, and other reasons, it is my opinion that Yenko didn’t produce the 427 Yenko Super Camaro until Jan 67. It is only an opinion since I was not there. Maybe he did make an early car and maybe some documentation or pictures will surface.
This is not an attact on the N101382 car as it is already stated that it does not have 427 docs.

On the 107 list. I did not attack anyone. I just stated that I don’t like the way it was posted to look like a Yenko inventory list when it is not. This can be confusing to people doing research on the cars.

I have a copy of the 107 vin. list with the NHRA letter but never posted it because when it was given to me, I was told not to share or post it. If you own the original, then you can post it but I said I will not share it and I haven’t.

In my opinion, it is clear that Don was using this list to try to get NHRA approval for the 1968 Yenko 427 Camaro for Super Stock class. (letter is dated Aug 7, 1967)
Don only needed to show 50 cars built and sold but for some reason he exaggerated the number of 1967 Yenko 427 Camaros to 107. (My opinion based on my research)

It is a great letter and many will enjoy to see it but I feel it is yours to post not mine.
I can post it for you if you like.
 

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#21 ·
No big mystery how a copy of the list became public, as I have openly shared portions of the paperwork with folks, even had much of it on display at a SCR for folks to see, where no doubt a few folks took photos of the more interesting parts. If I were not wanting the information to be known, I would not have posted the list on our site.

As per you posting the letter, knock yourself out. That has been my point all along, but do not stop at just the letter, post other documentation that you have, stuff that has not been made public. Stuff with some meat, not just ads, etc.


You say you did not attack the list, just did not like the way we posted it, fine, then you post your list in the form you think appropriate.
 
#25 · (Edited)
You say you did not attack the list, just did not like the way we posted it, fine, then you post your list in the form you think appropriate.

I am not attacking any list, web site, or person, just trying to put the story of the 1967 Yenko Super Camaros together as accurately as possible.

The 107 list is a great piece of Yenko documentation but needs to be put in context of why it was made. It should have been posted in its original form with the letter that Don wrote to NHRA.

In the letter, Don states that he produced 107 1967 Yenko 427 Super Camaros and that he ordered 200 base vehicles for conversion to 1968 Yenko 427 Super Camaros. Don’s stated numbers have consistently been on the high side on 67,68, and 69 Y Camaro production as compared to what Vince E’s numbers have shown, so they both need to be researched.

I have been saying this for over 5 years now and have accumulated more data that shows more problems with the 107 number so I am confident that it is not based on actual 427 inventory lists.

Again, not bashing anyone - just trying to put the info together.
 
#22 ·
My opinion, this car has been past around alot. Who knows what it started out as.

https://www.dps.state.oh.us/atps/titleinq.asp?id=124377N101382 &propid=V

Type: Vehicle VIN#: 124377N101382 Year: 1967 Make: CHEVROLET Model: CAM Body Type: Two Door

Current Title Information
Title number: 2506682622 Title status: Inactive Owner name: PRIVATE OWNER Number of owners: 1
Issue date: 04/29/2004 Title type: Original Liens 1: Lien 1 cancel date:
Control Number: 061748514 Liens 2: Lien 2 cancel date:
Mileage: 85541 Mileage brand: Actual Brands 1: Brands 2: Brands 3:
Inactive reason type: Surrender Out of State Surrender to State: WI
Total Purchase Price: 12600 Resides in County: 31


History
Title Number Issue Date Title Type Title Status Inactive Reason Type Mileage Mileage brand Mileage justify Owner Name
2504948561 09/20/2001 Original Inactive Transferred Within County 85281 Actual ARENA MOTOR SALES INC
4500646772 09/13/2001 Original Inactive Transferred Out of County 85257 Actual PRIVATE OWNER
2503077648 10/16/1998 Original Inactive Transferred Within County 84763 Actual PRIVATE OWNER
2503077659 10/16/1998 Original Inactive Transferred Out of County 84800 Actual PRIVATE OWNER
4700457488 09/25/1996 Replacement Inactive Transferred Out of County 18475 Actual PRIVATE OWNER
 
#26 ·
Isn't it logical to assume that if Don had ordered cars for conversion's and they're sitting on the lot and a customer sees one he likes, that Don would have sold it without converting it?
Making a profit with out add'l labor would have been a no brainer. That's primarily what car dealers do
 
#28 ·
Anything can have happened from the time the car was ordered until the car was sold.

We do know that some 69 Nova's and some 68 COPO9737 Camaros were sold as SS396 cars.
Don did appear to seperate the Yenko Chevrolet cars and the Yenko SportsCars as we have the inventory sheets that list the Hi Po Cars.

The 1967 inventory sheets list some cars as "Camaro 450".
Yenko did rate some of the 427 cars as 450HP
 
#29 ·
I don't have any trim tags with a 3 digit Fleet number.
I found special trim tags on some 67 Yenko Camaros but it is just a dash.
That is still a special trim tag that is not found on many 67 Camaros and I believe it was some type of special fleet order.

Some 67 Pace Camaros have a similar code with a number and some other 67 Camaros have been found with it.
 
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