[Spider_Web]

Hi all - so my 1968 Camaro SS Convert shows that it originally came with the D91 Bumblebee accent band as well as the D96 side stripe. I am the 3rd owner and the car, it has been repainted once and door moldings installed. I'm thinking about a repaint and removing the door moldings, and in my research I have found some conflicting information. The dealership took receipt of my car in November of 1967, and according to Camaros.org, their was no option to get the D90 top bumblebee/body stripe on the early production 1968 SS cars. Mine has the D91 bumblebee accent band with the spot in the middle for the 350 emblem.

Now over to my confusion regarding the D96 stripe. According to camaros.org, the D91 and D96 stripe packages could be ordered together with early 68 SS cars, and mine looks to have been ordered this way. Camaros.org also says that in 1968 the D96 stripe ran along the belt line of the car from the fender across the door and onto the quarter panel. They go on to say that the D96 stripe was modified for 1969. It consisted of two pinstripes - each stripe started along the front edge of the wheel opening and extended rearward over the wheel opening, following the body line.

I cannot for the life of me find an actual photo of a 1968 Camaro SS with both the D91 bumblebee and the D96 stripe. And to make matters more confusing, I did find two pictures of base 1968 Camaros with the D96 stripe, and it's the 1969 version. I question if camaros.org is correct with their description of the 1968 D96 stripe, maybe it is the same as the 1969? What is correct? And were both stripes really possible?

Any help here is majorly appreciated as I'm running into a dead end on this one.

Camaros.org drawing of supposably 1968 D91 & D96

Camaros.org drawing of supposably 1968 D96

Camaros.org drawing of 1969 D96

 

[Garfields Maro]

I've never seen the 2 stripes combined either, except in the AIM, pg239. I believe the CRG stripe information is entirely accurate.

The reason D96 was changed in 69 is because the bodylines changed. 69 no longer has the continuous belt line of the 67-8. It fades away in the middle of the door.

I'm sure it's not factory, but would like to see the pics you're describing of a 68 with 69 style D96 ? I've seen a few 68's with 69 "hockey sticks" (D90 for 69) which doesn't look bad, imo....but certainly not "correct".

 

[allanjs]

Here's one. Judge for yourself if it's correct.
1968 Camaro SS 396 | Harmon's Classic Cars#!

 

[Garfields Maro]

I see the description says D91 and D96, but it's certainly not painted that way. Looks like a D90 to me, Al.:yes:

Back to the OP, D96 stripes obviously follow the belt/body lines in all years. That's why I don't think a 69 style D96 would look right on a 67/8.

 

[Spider_Web]

Thanks guys. So I agree that the Burgundy SS 396 on Harmon's Cars site although claiming to be D91/D96 is most definitely the D90 SS stripe post Jan 1968. Here is a 1967 Camaro Z28 RS with the D91 bumblebee and the D96 which goes the length of the car but following the top portion of the body. According to the AIM, this would be incorrect, yet this photo was taken back in 1967 so we know it's original paint.

I have a feeling that the 1967 and 1968 D96 is this one, and the straight D96 going across the body, although pictured in the AIM and on camaros.org for the 1968 model is a myth.

Still confused as I'l love to to my paint like this below picture, but I just can't corroborate that it was an actually a thing!

 

[GreenZ]

Just depends on when the car was built. Early 68s got the 67 style and late got the one than was wider across the header panel and ran down the doors. When was your car built

 

[Garfields Maro]

Thanks guys. So I agree that the Burgundy SS 396 on Harmon's Cars site although claiming to be D91/D96 is most definitely the D90 SS stripe post Jan 1968. Here is a 1967 Camaro Z28 RS with the D91 bumblebee and the D96 which goes the length of the car but following the top portion of the body. According to the AIM, this would be incorrect, yet this photo was taken back in 1967 so we know it's original paint.


I have a feeling that the 1967 and 1968 D96 is this one, and the straight D96 going across the body, although pictured in the AIM and on camaros.org for the 1968 model is a myth.

Still confused as I'l love to to my paint like this below picture, but I just can't corroborate that it was an actually a thing!

Nope ! Where do you see a "bumble stripe" (D91) ??? The 67 RS/Z does NOT have D91 or D96. It has rally stripes that were included with the Z/28 package and the side pinstripes along the top edge were 67 only and included with the RS package. They were also included with Z21 (style trim), but neither of those stripes could be ordered alone (not an RPO).

 

[allanjs]

Here's one. Judge for yourself if it's correct.
1968 Camaro SS 396 | Harmon's Classic Cars#!

I see the description says D91 and D96, but it's certainly not painted that way. Looks like a D90 to me, Al.

Garth, I was being a smart a** with that post only to show how misunderstood and misrepresented stripes are. That's why I stated "judge for yourself". This has to be one the most debated subjects on this site.

 

[Garfields Maro]

Thanks for clarifying...

BTW Spider Web (name ??), there was not a D96 option in 67 (model year).

Again, the CRG info given is as accurate as can be. It correlates with the AIM and White Book as well. Why don't you want believe it ? There were 19,687 68's sold with D96. I've seen a few, but never combined with D91. I believe that combo was probably kinda rare and over the years people doing repaints have got away from it for one reason or the other. Like the car above went for the D90 instead.

 

[Spider_Web]

Nope ! Where do you see a "bumble stripe" (D91) ??? The 67 RS/Z does NOT have D91 or D96. It has rally stripes that were included with the Z/28 package and the side pinstripes along the top edge were 67 only and included with the RS package. They were also included with Z21 (style trim), but neither of those stripes could be ordered alone (not an RPO).

Apologies! I've been researching this so much that I'm starting to mix things up! You are correct - there is obviously no bumble bee on the '67 RS/Z28. So the side pinstripes along the top edge were limited to the RS package? I guess ultimately my biggest thing is proving out that the D96 stripe offered in 1968 is different than the 1969 and in fact goes straight across the middle of the body. I'm not saying that the AIM is incorrect - I just wish that an actual picture of both options (91/96) on a '68 existed! I read on another forum that the '68 D96 was actually the same as the '69, but that person looks to be wrong. You make really good points regarding the body line change from '68 to '69 and that it was a rare to have both D91/D96 and that it was only requested and given to a small number of early production '68 cars, most of which have probably been repainted (or totaled!)

Here is a picture of a 1967 RS/SS with the D91 bumblebee and moldings going across the body. This is what the D91/D96 combo would look like on a '68 SS except that instead of the molding, it would be the stripe (and the fender logo would have a "350" or a "396", not the "SS"). Maybe I'll do it this way (according to the AIM) as I think it would look good and that is what my window sticker says was ordered.

--Scott--

 

[Garfields Maro]

SCOTT...after searching for some 68 D96 pics and ending up over at CRG, I gotta say I'm as confused as you are ! Some folks over there, including some core members, refer to those same pin stripes as used on 67 Z21/22 cars (as in your 67 RS pics above) for the 68 D96. Lots of confusion to say the least. I don't think anyone knows for sure. I guess that's why they still have the 68 AIM diagram shown for D96 ?

Anyway, I'd suggest asking your question over there as they do have a data base and possibly some original pics if you can stir enough interest. I seen one post where Ed (AKA bertfam) had posted some pics , but they've since been removed.

Good luck and sorry I couldn't be of more help. I've always liked the 67 RS pinstripes, but never knew they existed on some 68's !?!...hmm....

 

[adjudimo]

My dad bought a 1967 RS/SS - SS/RS (however) 396/375 new. He ordered the car. It was butternut yellow with a black vinyl top and deluxe interior. It came to the dealer with the black bumblebee stripe and the black dual pin stripes along the top of the fenders and doors.

 

[Spider_Web]

My dad bought a 1967 RS/SS - SS/RS (however) 396/375 new. He ordered the car. It was butternut yellow with a black vinyl top and deluxe interior. It came to the dealer with the black bumblebee stripe and the black dual pin stripes along the top of the fenders and doors.

This would make sense. Bumblebee for the "SS" and the high rally stripe for the "RS".

 

[Spider_Web]

SCOTT...after searching for some 68 D96 pics and ending up over at CRG, I gotta say I'm as confused as you are ! Some folks over there, including some core members, refer to those same pin stripes as used on 67 Z21/22 cars (as in your 67 RS pics above) for the 68 D96. Lots of confusion to say the least. I don't think anyone knows for sure. I guess that's why they still have the 68 AIM diagram shown for D96 ?

Anyway, I'd suggest asking your question over there as they do have a data base and possibly some original pics if you can stir enough interest. I seen one post where Ed (AKA bertfam) had posted some pics , but they've since been removed.

Good luck and sorry I couldn't be of more help. I've always liked the 67 RS pinstripes, but never knew they existed on some 68's !?!...hmm....

At lease I'm not crazy! I wonder if Jerry Macneish would know the answer!

 

[Garfields Maro]

JM is a "core member" there at CRG, although I didn't see any of his input in my search.

I'll be watching for your post as I'm almost as curious about it as you are.opcorn:

 

[69-Pace]

Scott - don't know if you noticed but there are not one, but two 68's in the ROTM competition for August with both stripes.

http://www.camaros.net/forums/126-r...126-ride-month/399729-time-vote-your-favorite-rotm-candidate-august-2016-a.html

 

[Spider_Web]

Solved!!!!!! I emailed Jerry directly. What a nice guy! As luck would have it, a friend of his purchased an SS in early 1968 (build date was late 1967) and it has the D91 & D96 striping! He send me a picture from April of 1968! The CRG and AIM are correct - it's a thin dual stripe that runs across the entire mid section of the car, and it starts at the top of the lower half of the D91 bumblebee stripe. Seems to be a rare and forgotten option. It won't add value to a car, but if you want factory correct according to a window sticker or order sheet - it did exist! We all know that so many non Z/28 Camaros get done with the Z/28 stripes upon repaint. I like the stripes, but it annoys me when they are put on a car that didn't initially have them. I'm more of a purist, but in some cases you just can't go back to all original. My car has a brand new Chevy performance 350 as the original 350 was blown in 1974 and junked. I chose the 350/330hp motor because outside of finding a "period correct" motor which could need a rebuild, I wanted something that would be relatively close to the 350/295hp that came with the car. Some people go fuel injected and put in monster motors - I'm not knocking that but it's not my style. Anyway, sometimes with motors and other parts you are forced into a decision. But with paint, there is no reason to get that wrong. But in the end, it's all about what makes the owner happy.

 

[Spider_Web]

Scott - don't know if you noticed but there are not one, but two 68's in the ROTM competition for August with both stripes.

http://www.camaros.net/forums/126-r...126-ride-month/399729-time-vote-your-favorite-rotm-candidate-august-2016-a.html

Thanks for chiming in Brian. Your pictures are of the common 1968 D90 option that all SS cars made after 1/1/68 received. See my post above.

 

[Garfields Maro]

:hurray:Very cool, thanks Scott !:thumbsup:

I wonder if he knows anything about the D88 ?!?

 

[Spider_Web]

Oh boy! The mysterious rainbow D88! Yikes.....

:hurray:Very cool, thanks Scott !:thumbsup:

I wonder if he knows anything about the D88 ?!?