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I'm on the hunt for a set of spoilers to add to my 67. What I'd like to know from you guys is if you've had any experience with the quality of the repops and if so what/where should I buy them?

I've been looking at the OER ones and the ProTrouring ones on ClassicIndustries.com. From what I can tell the rear one doesn't appear to me in the photo to look any different other than the carbon fiber dipped pattern (I'll be color matching).

But the front one does look different F678F vs. R370. I kind of like the aggressive look of the ProTouring one does anyone have any pics of it on a car by chance?

Then I go over to Year One and can't even find them, what I do find doesn't show any pictures on the car or anything.

So I thought I'd ask you guys here that might have been down this road. What spoiler did you use? Were you happy with the quality and fitment?

I might replace the rear decklid as well since mine has no holes underneath and the only spot on the car that could use some paint repair anyway.
 
I have broken a few with a lowered car when parking, so I have gone without. The F678 looks good. Is your car lowered? I get the majority of my parts from NPD, fast shipping, great return policy and great service from their Charlotte location. And family owned. Rear spoiler was fine. Repo trunk lids are not as good as original. Use what you have.
 
The F678F looks a lot like the 67-68 Camaro | spoilersbyrandy. It looks to give a little more ground clearance than the factory style. The randy spoiler is made from steel, and while stiff, it can get dinged and beat up since they have no forgiveness. My stock design was the cheap ABS and ended up cracked, however inexpensive when I replace it. Probably try the F678F next.
 
I'm about to purchase a correct early 68 spoiler to replace my incorrect (69 style) and broken one on the front of my 68. Note if you go the factory route - there are two styles. The 68 style comes down at almost a 90 degree angle and is relatively short. The 69 style comes out at almost a 45 degree angle and can get quite low, especially with a lowered car. To illustrate my point:

68 style:
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69 Style:
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I agree with the sentiment above that reproduction trunk lids will never be as good as originals and you may be opening a can of worms by going down that path, but in saying that, the idea of drilling your original 67 lid makes me cringe a little. With the 'pro-touring' style spoilers - is the rest of your car setup this way? Does it have extensive body modifications? A pro-touring stance and wheel package? If not I would advise against it as they'll tend to look out of place, tacky and not work cohesively with a relatively stock appearing car. Just my .02 cents and some food for thought...
 
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I have broken a few with a lowered car when parking, so I have gone without. The F678 looks good. Is your car lowered? I get the majority of my parts from NPD, fast shipping, great return policy and great service from their Charlotte location. And family owned. Rear spoiler was fine. Repo trunk lids are not as good as original. Use what you have.
Well... that's a bit of a long story. I did the RideTech dual rate front coils that were supposed to be 2" lower. However, I think it actually raised the car a 1/2". After talking to them they said it's normal to need to cut your coils to get the desired ride height. I said I bought what was in the pic on your site and now after I'm done with the install and driving it you're telling me I need to pull it all back apart and cut the new coils to actually achieve the 2" drop to get the fender down just over the tire?.... Apparently so.

In addition, the rear 1" lowering kit (also pictured on the car on their site) was backordered for weeks. So my car is back together and on the road just waiting for the rear shocks and lowering kit to show up. Once it did, I took a look at the rear 1" kit and in their instructions is 2 things that struck me odd.
Remove what we told you to put in with the rear leaf package you just bought, and here is a template to cut your front coils to match the 1" drop you're adding to the rear.... uhh.. what?

I thought the front were supposed to be 2" drop already why would I need to cut them to achieve a 1" drop?

Anyway, the short answer is yes. It will be lowered 2" in the front by next week anyway.

The F678F looks a lot like the 67-68 Camaro | spoilersbyrandy. It looks to give a little more ground clearance than the factory style. The randy spoiler is made from steel, and while stiff, it can get dinged and beat up since they have no forgiveness. My stock design was the cheap ABS and ended up cracked, however inexpensive when I replace it. Probably try the F678F next.
I thought that too. I also asked this same thing over on the PT site. The response was to take a look at those as well. I agree, same basic design.
I think I'll go with the F678F. Spoilersbyrandy are as you said metal (will dent if I do bump a curb or something), $400 shipped and 4 weeks out.

I'm about to purchase a correct early 68 spoiler to replace my incorrect (69 style) and broken one on the front of my 68. Note if you go the factory route - there are two styles. The 68 style comes down at almost a 90 degree angle and is relatively short. The 69 style comes out at almost a 45 degree angle and can get quite low, especially with a lowered car. To illustrate my point:

I agree with the sentiment above that reproduction trunk lids will never be as good as originals and you may be opening a can of worms by going down that path, but in saying that, the idea of drilling your original 67 lid makes me cringe a little. With the 'pro-touring' style spoilers - is the rest of your car setup this way? Does it have extensive body modifications? A pro-touring stance and wheel package? If not I would advise against it as they'll tend to look out of place, tacky and not work cohesively with a relatively stock appearing car. Just my .02 cents and some food for thought...
Thanks for the tip on the differences on the front OEM ones!
I'm pretty sure I don't have an OEM lid already.
 
A metal one if hit may damage the lower valance. Buy the cheapest one from a Camaro vendor, You should be able to get one for $50. Try Tamaraz on line. They all look the same anyway. Next time you need springs go the Eaton in Detroit they are the OEM company and the correct springs are about $100 and will be right. Stock height is measured at the rocker and get the specs from your AIM. I have found they sit like a 1" drop, using what the market says is 2", most sit too heigh to begin with.
 
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A metal one if hit may damage the lower valance. Buy the cheapest one from a Camaro vendor, You should be able to get one for $50. Try Tamaraz on line. They all look the same anyway. Next time you need springs go the Eaton in Detroit they are the OEM company and the correct springs are about $100 and will be right. Stock height is measured at the rocker and get the specs from your AIM. I have found they sit like a 1" drop, using what the market says is 2", most sit too heigh to begin with.
Exactly, They do sit to high to start with IMHO. I'm not trying to put this car down in the weeds (yet anyway). Just bring it down just over the tires.
I'll get it, just surprises me to be told by a company to cut their springs to get your car to actually be 2" lower after they sold you lowered springs.
Now, I have to pop apart new joints and hope I don't tear any boots in the process.

This is with the stock susp, the rear is now just over the tire, the front is about the same.

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I have RideTech progressive lowering springs. Advertised to drop the car 1 1/2"...they dropped it 1 5/8" which for me was perfect. Included in instructions was their template showing where to cut spring "if" I wanted it lower

Front spoiler...and lowered car typically result in the front spoiler getting hit entering driveways on cars I see with them so doing the angled, slow, approach will need to be part of your driving style on occasion

At some point in the build year for 67, in preparation to rear spoilers for 68 models, the trunk lids do have the 4 hole positions on the lid frame. Look at yours to see if they are there. My 67 was built 2nd week of April and I have them.
 
I'm on the hunt for a set of spoilers to add to my 67. What I'd like to know from you guys is if you've had any experience with the quality of the repops and if so what/where should I buy them?

I've been looking at the OER ones and the ProTrouring ones on ClassicIndustries.com. From what I can tell the rear one doesn't appear to me in the photo to look any different other than the carbon fiber dipped pattern (I'll be color matching).

But the front one does look different F678F vs. R370. I kind of like the aggressive look of the ProTouring one does anyone have any pics of it on a car by chance?

Then I go over to Year One and can't even find them, what I do find doesn't show any pictures on the car or anything.

So I thought I'd ask you guys here that might have been down this road. What spoiler did you use? Were you happy with the quality and fitment?

I might replace the rear decklid as well since mine has no holes underneath and the only spot on the car that could use some paint repair anyway.
I haven't installed it yet but I think the Addictive Flow spoiler is the one you're looking at. We had a discussion a little while back... check the thread.

Front Spoiler Options

I ordered the Addictive Flow one, had it painted to match the car along with the RS grill shell, endura bumper and Gen 2 bullet mirrors. Installing everything next week. Was going to start today but I can't quite figure out the new OER endura mount (no instructions). Gonna try and call them.
 
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This is stock springs for a SB, but is a BB car. 1" lower than stock measured at the rocker in a coupla places according to the AIM. Tire circumference less than stock, so about 1/2"lower than stock View attachment 286970
easured at the rocker in a coupla places according to the AIM
That looks great! just above the tire. That could really be the difference too, with the RT springs, perhaps they would have brought my front down if I had a BB.
 
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I haven't installed it yet but I think the Addictive Flow spoiler is the one you're looking at. We had a discussion a little while back... check the thread.

Front Spoiler Options

I ordered the Addictive Flow one, had it painted to match the car along with the RS grill shell, endura bumper and Gen 2 bullet mirrors. Installing everything next week. Was going to start today but I can't quite figure out the new OER endura mount (no instructions). Gonna try and call them.
Just went and read that thread, seems like the Addictive Flow ones are probably going to be decent.
As @FbodyMike said they're made from poly instead of plastic or metal.

So I'll get those coming and see what happens.

Thanks everyone for the info!
 
My Randys spoiler is over 10 years old still like new even with a few bumps over time
I found that the original plastic ones would crack without hitting something and would take the middle bracket off and no cracking again
 
My old plastic front spoiler had been on for years... didn't use the end brackets, and honestly, I'm pretty careful as far as where I park. Never cracked any spoiler on any car I've owned and I've had some nearly slammed rides. Slow down for driveways, speed bumps or anything. I've seen some cars where the headers hang so low the collectors get flattened... could be bad engineering, carelessness, or a poor install. Anyway... I think the Addictive Flow spoiler isn't as deep as the typical Camaro spoiler so that might be a plus.
 
Well... that's a bit of a long story. I did the RideTech dual rate front coils that were supposed to be 2" lower. However, I think it actually raised the car a 1/2".
Are you sure you got SB and not BB front springs??

I ask because I ordered SB RideTech springs from Summit. They were delivered and I noticed the enclosed instructions said BB. I checked the part # against Summit listing....and found the same # listed for both SB & BB. Called RideTech and they said Summit listing was wrong and they promptly sent me the SB ones direct and had Summit correct their 411.
 
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Are you sure you got SB and not BB front springs??

I ask because I ordered SB RideTech springs from Summit. They were delivered and I noticed the enclosed instructions said BB. I checked the part # against Summit listing....and found the same # listed for both SB & BB. Called RideTech and they said Summit listing was wrong and they promptly sent me the SB ones direct and had Summit correct their 411.
To be honest, I ordered SB ones straight from RT. I didn't see anything to indicate BB or SB.
So it's totally possible. Now that I have the entire kit on the car and drove it, it rides really good. Just sits a bit high in the front.
I'm waiting for the AGR box right now, I have the ProForged steering rebuild sitting here in the box. So I plan to pull the springs and cut one full coil from them when I pull it all back it apart.

This weekend I might actually pull it all apart and get everything else done even though the AGR box isn't here yet.

The spoilers are ordered, no tracking# yet but I assume they'll arrive next week.
 
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My old plastic front spoiler had been on for years... didn't use the end brackets, and honestly, I'm pretty careful as far as where I park. Never cracked any spoiler on any car I've owned and I've had some nearly slammed rides. Slow down for driveways, speed bumps or anything. I've seen some cars where the headers hang so low the collectors get flattened... could be bad engineering, carelessness, or a poor install. Anyway... I think the Addictive Flow spoiler isn't as deep as the typical Camaro spoiler so that might be a plus.
Yeah, if it had the plastic ones, I'd probably just leave it. I've been wrestling with the idea of adding spoilers since I picked this car up a few months ago.
I finally decided I like the spoilers on these cars even if it is a 67. This car is actually perfect for such a mod, it's nothing special, no RS/SS or anything. Just originally a 6cyl AT car that's already already had all rust repair done and swapped to 350/4sp by prev owner. I swapped a T56 already while updating/upgrading the other underside items.

I've had some extremely slammed cars in the past as well. So, I'm not worried about hitting a curb or driveways. I don't drive up until my tires hit in any spot, and this car isn't that low.
However, If something does happen and I break a $100 spoiler, it's not the end of the world.
 
To be honest, I ordered SB ones straight from RT. I didn't see anything to indicate BB or SB.
So it's totally possible.
SB spring # is 11162350
BB spring # is 11162351

? I had for RT on how much lower the car will be with spring installed as is (1 1/2"), then by cutting 1/2 of a coil out (1/2" more) compared to 5/8 of a coil. Yeah it got that specific and also said take baby steps as there is no going back after cutting. Of course this means install, measure height, drive to let spring settle...repeat if you want it lower. FWIW I got a 1 5/8" drop with spring as is so I did not cut mine

RT either included with spring install instructions or emailed it separate but I have a scale drawing of a cut coil template showing where to cut if cutting off 5/8 of a coil like they did in the "green car" photo on their site. I can take a pic of it and post if needed but you could also get it from their site or contact them. darren@ridetech.com

Are you sure you installed the spring right?
Close coils towards bottom?
This is step 2: "Insert coil spring in pocket (lower control arm). SPECIAL ATTENTION NEEDS TO BE PLACED ON THE LOCATION OF THE ENDS OF THE SPRINGS TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE CLOCKED CORRECTLY. The end of the coil spring will nest into the receiver area of control arm. If you line up bottom, the top will be correct."
 
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