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Mike-in-South-Texas

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OK, here we go: I recently purchased this 1968 Camaro RS (been looking forever). I am going through a restoration (as full as I can do) and aiming for a reliable, good-looking driver. I was told there was no way I could do the whole thing myself, so of course I have to. I am going to take it a small chunk at a time, and have put in SOOOO many hours of research time it ain't even funny. I am going to need a lot of help from you guys. I am also going to try to document the entire restoration in this thread (if I am allowed to keep reposting... is that advisable here?) so that other first timers who come across this thread can read through the whole process (and possibly witness my descent into insanity). That way everyone gets to see the progress and hopefully learn from the mistakes I am sure to make. (If there is a better spot for this than here lemme know)
So to start, the standard "Which way do I go" question. Lemme 'splain... No, takes too long, lemme sum up: Bought the car, got it home, rust was way worse than I had been lead to believe. No prob, was still a good price. Stripped the car (interior, headliner, almost all trim, wiring, vacuum, engine/tranny, hood, header, deck lid, cowl panel, dash, instrument cluster, glove box, inner heater component off). Now I am at that point... to blast or sand, to patch or replace.
rather than waste space here, I have posted a nice image viewer and some detailed pics here: http://www.3dnonsense.com/camaro/
Based on my skill set (I am a network engineer, but work on cars as a hobby. Good with mechanical things, mucked with plenty of chevy V8's, but that's about it), I am aiming at the following plan:
Get MIG135 welder (done)
Practice welding
practice more welding
replace rear quarters (and wells if needed)
prolly new fenders and door shells
blast / sand car to metal in sections, etching and epoxy priming as I go (if I can afford a rotisserie or find someone to blast body then it would be done all at once after rear quarter repair)
replace / patch parts as necessary
blast / sand and coat subframe and susp.(I have heard that a POR-somenumber coating is good for suspension / subframe)
re-assemble and align, body subframe, suspension, body panels
PRACTICE painting (I am almost certain I will be better off with new fenders and door shells, so I plan to use the old ones to practice welding and painting, making sure I can make it look good before working on the car itself)
sand/paint/sand/paint/sand/paint, etc, to clear coat
re-assemble trim and interior, restoring / replacing parts as necessary.
install engine and tranny.
Step 3: PROFIT!

K, now you guys yell at me and tell me what I have wrong. I know i am a noob, but I am a firm believer in not only that the only stupid question is the one not asked, but also that the only bad criticism (or advice) is that which you don't listen to.
So, advice, complaints, order-changes, encouragement, stuff I forgot, (*donations*, hehe), and thanks in advance for all the help and fun times we're sure to have (I promise I'll bring the car to a meet-up for you guys once it's done).
-Mike
 
What you think it will cost, x3. How long you think it will take, x4. Paint and body, x5. This is just from my experience. Welcome and good luck with your project... Post pics of the progress. That is multiply by time and money...
 
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Yeah, I have been through all the cost more, more time stuff, but thanks for the morib reminder ;)
I am not scared of extra time or money. This is a project I have ben waiting a long time for, and will put as much elbow grease into it as it takes to do it right. I am going to practice everything on junk yard panels or friends' jalopies before ever touching a piece of the camaro that can't be easily replaced.
I just wanted to get you guys on board at the beginning, not only for the help I'll need but because I know what a pleasure it is to see something this abused get brought back to life.
I will post new pics and updates here pretty much live (as soon as I complete a task). I am also keeping a spreadsheet of all expenses and time involved, which I will make available at the project's end. Should I keep posting here or start a new topic periodically?
 
Mike, welcome and congratulations on your first gen.! I like your plan you have established and your definitely on the right track. My advice to you and others will tell you the same is to try to reuse as much original sheet metal as possible. I know from experience some of the reproduction panels are just a bear to work with. I can see by your photos there is plenty of rust to deal with and some things will have to be replaced entirely. As Jess stated above in his post, costs to restore will be enormous. I know when I purchased my 69 low mile convertible in 05 I thought maybe $15,000 would cover restoration with me doing most of the work. WRONG! $35,000 later..... well you see where I'm going with this. It's just really hard in today's market to realize any type of profit after restoration(you stated this was step 3). Good luck and yes keep the posts coming.
 
Mike, you will will be fine, just keep at it. I did the resto on my car. With help from friends and books, and this forum. I still cant weld really well, but I get better everytime I do. Patience dont rush it. I rushed a few things, now they have to come back apart...
 
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