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69 Grandma to COPO Clone Resto... One step at a time!

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Well here we go again... One more time with feeling! :yes:

Here is my 69 Grandma car I purchased recently. Bought it from a little 88 year old lady, who was the Original owner. Bought just a few streets over from me, in my neighborhood. Car was purchased new locally and according the little old lady she was the only person that has ever driven the car, until I came along.

I was on the fence about what to do with the car as it is a 6 cylindar car.

Here is the option list.

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Here is how it looked just before it went into the shop.

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Here is the resto plan, that will be done in stages, as I want to pay for it as I go. My friend has a shop and he is letting me do as much work as I can, that my limited skill set will allow. Mainly grunt and shop schlepper work. I will pay for the parts and he will only bill me for the stuff I can't do.

I call it the 10 step plan. My buddy did not give me an estimate but said he would bill me for each step as we go. That will allow me to drive away anytime and return anytime, cash flow depending.

Step one:
Change Rear Passenger quarter, including Outter wheel well.

Step Two:
Remove rear glass and fix window channel rust, and re install so it won't leak. It currently leaks like a sive!

Step Three:
Fix Front passeneger lower fender rust

Step Four:
Romove front Windshield, fix any window channel rust issues. Same issue as rear glass.

Step Five:
Fix Upper cowl and dash pannel rust

Step Six:
Remove all paint to bare metal, prep and primer.
add front & rear spoilers

Step Seven:
Paint car Original color Dover White

Step Eight:
Prep secondary subframe complete with disc breaks, suspension, steering box, brake lines, fully painted

Step Nine:
Install Big Block in subframe with trans

Step Ten:
Drop current subframe, detail firewall install complete subframe.

This might all be a fantasy and I might only get to step one, but I am there right now and here is what I did today. Cut off the quarter to see what was underneath and determine what parts to order. Going with an 80% panel as they call it. Once we have the part in hand tomorrow, we will decide the best place to cut and mount. Also going to replace either all or some of the outter wheel well.

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The repair that was done to this quarter by the previous shop was hysterical to say the least. It has this tinfoil type of tape all over it and bondo as thick as peanut butter, just slopped on all over the place on top of the tinfoil and rust. We got a real kick out of it.

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I was actually surprised with the lack of rust on the outter wheel well as I was expecting to find hell inside the quarter. Also the rear drop off looks like it can be used, so overall happy with the results so far.

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So like I was saying that I was undecided on what to do with car, as there was so much great advice. Everything from don't touch it at all and just drive it as is, to Todd's suggestion to go with the COPO Clone. Once Todd sent me the article of the 69 ZL1 that looked almost exactly like my car, the deal was done. That was yesterday and today I am well on my way to somewhere, with any luck.

The way I figure it, no matter how far I get I will always be one step further ahead than I am now. The overall plan is to preserve as much of the car as possible and keep as original as possible. It will be a gradual resto that I can drive as often as possible, and I can stop and restart anytime with funds allowing it. No plans to touch any of the interior at all at this point. It will be a basic repair paint and drive train resto, that I hope won't be too expensive, and will give me a nice driver that I won't be afraid to drive anywhere. Who knows anything can change in this crazy world, but for now I am just going to take it one step at a time...

I have to thank everyone on this site for showing such great support and giving me great advice even if I didn't want to hear it. I hope that this thread will continue until it is done. It won't be a really in depth major resto, but I think that it will be one that I can manage and complete, a very important deatil as I attempted to restor my 68, and needless to say it did not make it to completion. Onward and upward...
 
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You do take great pictures. Here is my Camaro. As you can see I don't have your photography talent! :) I am for the most part done with the exception of minor projects. Proud to say all the work was done myself.
Greg--- Sitting here drooling over your mean green machine! NICE!!!!!:yes:
 
#1,375 ·
That's the one Lorne. Great seeing you tonight at Canadian Tire. I should have taken a picture of your car. First time I have seen it. It looks awesome. I love it. Really nicely done and it sounds great. Very well done indeed. I will call you next week when I am in Squamish. Hopefully I can get a picture of it then.
 
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Clutch Fork Update August 18, 2012

Here is a new clutch fork I ordered through GM. No part number

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Here is the clutch fork I had that I thought was correct. Has part number stamped on it.

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Here is an original GM Clutch for. The new one I ordered is very close to the same, however the rivet used to hold the retainer in is different. No part number stamped on it.

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Here they are together. From left to right. Original one. New one, wrong one.

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Notice quality of the retainers. New one in the middle is poorest quality and will require some modification.

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#1,379 · (Edited)
Grandma Then & Now

This helps fuel my motivation to get it completed, one step at a time...

The name of my thread should have been "How to Restore a 69 Z 28 Clone backwards". As the "Source" often jokes with me. His famous quote, referring to my car restoration is. "Step One. Paint Car". I still get a kick out of it every time he says it, because he is right. I guess in the long run I would have been better off doing it all at once and in sequence, but hey what fun would that have been. This way I can drag this restoration out for years... Next time I will consider the obvious and sensible.

Purchased July 2010

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Today August 2012

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Next step "Drive Train" Baby! :thumbsup:
 
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"Step One. Paint Car"...that never gets old...l:)



Grandma Then & Now

This helps fuel my motivation to get it completed, one step at a time...

The name of my thread should have been "How to Restore a 69 Z 28 Clone backwards". As the "Source" often jokes with me. His famous quote, referring to my car restoration is. "Step One. Paint Car". I still get a kick out of it every time he says it, because he is right. I guess in the long run I would have been better off doing it all at once and in sequence, but hey what fun would that have been. This way I can drag this restoration out for years... Next time I will consider the obvious and sensible.
 
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Hey Mike... What did you do with your radio antenna? I see it's missing on the front fender now. No? Maybe just the angle of the pic? Curious. LOOKS SWEET!!! I know you're enjoying the cruises and shows. :yes: :beers:
 
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Hey Todd as Edgemont Village pointed out I had an FM antenna on my AM radio car, so I am going to swap it out. I decided to leave it off as I am borrowing a temporary car cover from "The Source" and I don't have a hole for the antenna in the cover, so I just leave it off until I get around to ordering a car cover. Right now the money is going into parts. The cover will come after it is all done.
 
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Thanks Terry. It seems like I haven't even started yet when I look at my winter project list for the drive train swap! You must be enjoying your awesome car this summer! Got any new pics?
 
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June 22, 2012. No work happening on the car right now, just driving it, as we are coming down to the end of the wire for driving weather. Out for a cruise with the usual suspects!

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#1,389 ·
Solo Time. Out cruising the hood alone. Each mile one step closer to winter and conversion time. Grandma is resisting the knife and wants no part of my evil plans. Muhamuhaw muhawaaa. Little does she know what the winter hibernation has in store for her frail and weary parts.

Can't wait to unveil here next year, like in the scene from "Weird Science" when Kelly Le Brock appears out of the fog!

Say Goodnight Grandma!


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#1,391 ·
Solo Time. Out cruising the hood alone. Each mile one step closer to winter and conversion time. Grandma is resisting the knife and wants no part of my evil plans. Muhamuhaw muhawaaa. Little does she know what the winter hibernation has in store for her frail and weary parts.

Can't wait to unveil here next year, like in the scene from "Weird Science" when Kelly Le Brock appears out of the fog!

Say Goodnight Grandma!

I'm picturing Megan Fox straddling a motorcycle from a scene in Transformers instead. ;):yes: She's gonna scream with new power! Can't wait to hear the sound byte Mike! :popcorn:
 
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Mike, great photos as usual, and a fitting end to G'ma's time as a humble 6-banger.
Did you get around to starting the Muncie rebuild under Jody's direction yet, or is that lined up as a Winter project?
 
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No worries Al. That is my Fantasy Dream Car right there. It is the most menacing and coolest looking front end I have ever seen in my rear view mirror. Yes I have RS envy and proud of it!
 
#1,403 ·
that is a good looking ragtop Al!

I think when the ice melts, a ragtop convoy up to Vancouver BC to breath some fire into this Granny turning Super Model. Or is it the good beer up there calling me? I imagine Al's orange ragtop, my soon-to-be Rallye Green again beast, and Granny hitting I-5 would be a memorable site. But perhaps a break-in trip to Vancouver, WA to see what Al is up to first.
 
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"Motor to go".

Motor is ready for pick up. Can't wait to get it home. Then the install will begin. Motor is complete including water pump, distributor, intake, fuel pump, valve covers, etc


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#1,412 ·
So have you heard Grandma's new roar yet? :D Updates!!!:yes: Even I'm back at it now:hurray:....